Perhaps one means of making the files intended for blind people accessible to only blind people is to leave them in electronic brialle no matter the end product. Expect that talking books be able to read braille. And for those using their computers, the software can do the back translation as needed, or the individual can back tanslate to standard ascii. I know this is not perfect, but with work I am sure it can be made better. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net Nowlan's Theory: He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from the next freeway exit.