Hey, that presentation was great! He can be quite the philosopher, can't he. About the Vorbis utilities, is there any way to play selective parts of an ogg file ala trplayer style? Example, I was listening to the lecture yesterday and wanted to pause it a time or two and cannot do that with ogg123. At least with mpg123 and trplayer, you can move around within the file while playing and you can pause and start up the program at will. Are there any similar formatted players for Vorbis files?