What if you use Lynx or don't have a sound card in your computer? But it's already some suggestion, not just an empty complaint. thanks a lot! Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:38 PM Subject: Re: Off-topic: Yahoo registration inaccessible to all blind users > If they want to be sure that a human is sitting at the console, have the > "word" be spoken as well as appear on the screen as an image. Seems simple > enough. > Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1 at home.com> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:05 AM > Subject: Re: Off-topic: Yahoo registration inaccessible to all blind users > > > > we've been discussing this elsewhere and with yahoo who are working on > > the issue. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang at uq.net.au> > > To: <blindcast at yahoogroups.com>; <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>; > > <acbri-forum at acbradio.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 6:23 AM > > Subject: Off-topic: Yahoo registration inaccessible to all blind users > > > > > > Hi: > > > > This is blatently off-topic. If you're not interested, hit delete. I'd > > suggest not discussing it on list unless the moderator deems it > > on-topic, > > but that's obviously not for me to say. If you care at all, please feel > > free to spread this around. > > > > It is apparently now impossible for a blind or low vision person to > > independantly register with yahoogroups, no matter what browser they are > > using. Yahoogroups has implemented a security feature to stop automated > > programs from spuriously registering yahoo accounts. Unfortunately, > > it's > > preventing blind people from registering also ... and they know it. > > > > What they've done is to implement a system where a word is printed on > > the > > screen as a graphic. You have to correctly enter this word into the > > sign-up form before you can register. This is meant to prove that it's > > a > > human doing the registration, but all it does prove is that it's a > > sighted > > person able to read print that's doing the registration. They have a > > link > > to click if you can't see the word, and this is what that page says: > > > > What is Word Verification? > > Visually impaired or blind users: We can help you register. So that a > > customer care representative can contact you, please provide your > > phone number in addition to your required email address when you > > contact us by pasting this URL into your browser: > > http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/edit/cgi_access > > By entering the word you see in the box, you help Yahoo! prevent > > automated registrations. Doing this reduces system loads and ensures > > better performance of Yahoo! services. > > > > If no image appears, please make sure your browser is set to display > > images and try again. If you are not sure what the word is, make your > > best guess. If you guess incorrectly, you will have an opportunity to > > enter a different word on the next screen. > > > > This is pretty damning. They are conceeding that they know it's > > inaccessibal to blind people and expect me as a blind person to hand > > over > > my phone number so that they can walk me through the registration > > process. > > Quite aside from the fact that I do not want to give out my phone > > number, > > I'm highly doubtful that someone's going to spare the international > > expence > > to call me in Australia. And even if someone from Yahoo Australia calls > > me, what if I live somewhere where there is no local yahoo branch? > > someone > > will still have to call me, and I wonder how bothered they'll be to do > > that? > > > > So what to do? Firstly, give yahoo a hard time about it, both the main > > yahoo in the USA and any local affiliates (e.g. yahoo UK, yahoo Japan, > > yahoo Australia, etc). I'd suggest boycotting them altogether, but I > > realise that's not always possible. I'd also urge any group moderators > > to > > stop using any of the features requiring a yahoo ID until this is > > resolved. > > If you're a member of a yahoo group, ask your list moderator not to use > > any > > of these features, as you as a blind person won't be able to access > > them. > > > > The yahoo signup page also says that the word verification technology > > was > > developed in conjunction with the Captcha project (note the spelling) at > > Carnegie Mellon University. So I think we should give these people a > > hard > > time too. > > > > Geoff. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >
