Nope, "Off Screen model approach" is not a crutch. It does not necessarily achieve the best Accessibility but it is utilized in JFW and HAL. I believe that Window-Eyes also makes a good attempt to address controls and so forth which aren't MS standard. I believe utilizing MSAA whereever possible is obviously the best way but it doesn't always work. In Window-Eyes, one can toggle MSAA on and off and it is necessary to do so in certain instances. Long of the short obviously a hybrid approach to utilize whatever will get the job done. Amanda Lee On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Kirk Wood wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Charles Crawford wrote: > > Thanks. I understand what you are saying. Does this mean that > > there would not be a fix for X-Windows like the MSAA in Windows? Would we > > need some kind of major off-screen model? > > Actually, I think the point is to put the hooks where they really > belong. Understand there will be some advantages and some limitations. To > start, you will have to use gnome. There are many other window managers, > but you will have to use gnome. But if you do use gnome, there won't be a > need for something like msaa. > > Msaa is a crutch for what should have been done. As for off scren models > and the like, I don't personally know. I think that some of that was bable > to impress people quite honestly. > > ======= > Kirk Wood > Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net > > Nowlan's Theory: > He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from > the next freeway exit. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >