Hi. I guess I confused a couple of you. However, here is the scoop. In distributions that are set to runlevel 5 out of the box such as, Red Hat, Kaldera, and Mandrake you waith until the xdm login box comes up. Then, you can do a alt+ctrl+f1, alt+ctrl+f2, etc to switch to a text login. Once you login you are in bash. However, if you want to drop into x for some reason one can alt+ctrl+f7 and drop into the xdm login, and log into x. Then, those commands will switch you back and forth. If the computer is just for yourself you can just switch it back to runlevel 3. If you have sighted members around who use it I find it better to leave it in runlevel 5, because they want their Windows environment on startup.