You wrote: -=> You say that pressing control alt f1 drops you to a bash prompt. What -=> about logging in? Do you have to login through this X environment first? No, you don't have to log in to the X session at all. You can go to any one of the virtual consoles that you have enabled on your system by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F# where # is the number of the virtual console that you want. -=> Could you have a different console come up with a different run level to -=> give you a command style login and shell? From what I recall about -=> initab, you could have a different run level for each console (at least -=> under slackware). I think the init/inittab stuff is generic - non -=> specific to distributions, right? At any given time your machine is running at a particular run level. You cannot have several consoles simultaneously running at different run-levels (unless they are on different machines). -=> On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Thomas Ward wrote: -=> -=> > Lol! That is funny. Actually, Red Hat 7.2 by default loads the gui, and when -=> > you log in you are dropped on a Gnome 1.4 desktop which is nice. Since my -=> > family likes the gui on start up I leave it that way. -=> > However, a alt+control+f1 sets me right, and gets me into a bash prompt to -=> > get some work done. -=> > So it is no big deal if Linux os's such as Mandrake 8.1 or Red Hat 7.2 it is -=> > set to runlevel 5. One key stroke and you are in bash. -=> > I think you are right though. Linux is at a critical point. Big companies -=> > like IBM are taking Linux serious, and many of home users are peed off at -=> > they way MS puts in their security for XP. -=> > Now is the time to start proving the os for what it can do. However, -=> > Mandrake and Red Hat are good distributions for the average home user. After -=> > most of them can't even reinstall MS Windows which is easy. How could they -=> > even think about Slackware which requires a little knolege of system files -=> > etc. -=> > -=> > -=> > ----- Original Message ----- -=> > From: Adam Myrow <myrow at eskimo.com> -=> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> -=> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 3:24 PM -=> > Subject: Re: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner? -=> > -=> > -=> > > I can hear the advertising now. "Redhat, so easy, no wonder it's number -=> > > 1!" They'll be showing a grandmother on TV saying "my grandson sends me -=> > > email every day and I can actually reply with AOL for Redhat." -=> > > -=> > > In all seriousness, I don't think they could take out the command line. -=> > > After all, that's how Linux works. They could make it start up in X, and -=> > > people wouldn't use the command line, but it's still in there. Even -=> > > Windows XP has a command line if I understand it correctly. I just think -=> > > it's funny that AOL is interested in Linux. -=> > > -=> > > What this shows is what I've believed for a long time. Linux is at a -=> > > critical point in its history. It's powerful enough to run serious -=> > > servers, but it's starting to grab the attention of the public because -=> > > they are finally starting to get tired of Windows crashing and excepting -=> > > that this is not normal behavior for a computer. So, they are looking to -=> > > Linux because it has a reputation for stability, but they see that it -=> > > isn't Windows at all. They want Windows without the bugs, and the Linux -=> > > users want something other than Windows. So, we have word processors -=> > > under the GUI, ICQ cloans and such under the GUI, and development tools -=> > > running at the command line. Redhat is clearly trying to attract home -=> > > users with its Plug 'N Play type install while Slackware is staying with a -=> > > "do it yourself" approach and other distributions seem to be somewhere in -=> > > the middle. Linux is going to go one way or the other. It's really up to -=> > > the users to decide which way it goes. -=> > > -=> > > -=> > > _______________________________________________ -=> > > Speakup mailing list -=> > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca -=> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -=> > > -=> > -=> > -=> > _______________________________________________ -=> > Speakup mailing list -=> > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca -=> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -=> > -=> -=> -=> _______________________________________________ -=> Speakup mailing list -=> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca -=> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -=> --terry Name: Terry D. 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