By the way, I do agree with you Amanda. I believe blind people have the greater right to read, which is why I have no problem explaining to people how to get access to PDF files. On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Amanda Lee wrote: > Janina, > > Appears that Geof muddied the waters somewhat as he took my statements out > of context and inserted his own. This is why I don't like this form of > responding to email because it is very easy to distort what the original > sender intended to say. > > I was basically playing devil's advocate because it goes withoug saying that > a Copyright is just that and basically unless one modifies the content and > mis-represents it's intent, there is little that can be done to dictate to > the end user what he or she does with the information provided. If no > ill-intent is demonstrated, it's really in the gray area of what defines the > boundaries of enforceable law. This is why I feel certain that if someone > developed a program which enabled .pdf to be accessed via a Screen Reader or > other technologies intended for use by an individual who is blind, vision > impaired or print disabled, that Adobe would have a lot of work to do to > over-rule access to information which is already provided for under the law > versus the burden of proof necessary to justify that as persons who need to > utilize sed information, that we have any other intent. > > Amanda Lee > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:21 AM > Subject: Re: Problems with pdf files. > > > > Let's be clear about this. Whatever you read in any copyright statement is > > valid only if it falls within the law goveerning copyright. Congress and > > the courts decide what the law is in the U.S., not copyright holders. > > Silly statements such as the one below about reading aloud are exactly the > > kind of industry over-reaching that's going to get the DMCA reopened in > > Congress one of these days. > > On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Geoff Shang wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Amanda Lee wrote: > > > > > > > So if I have a colleague print the document and I then scan it with an > OCR > > > > program, is that illegal? Yet I technically would have displayed the > > > > document in another form. So I also suppose it is illegal to magnify > the > > > > font on the screen so that a low vision person can read it? Godf > forbid! > > > > > > A friend of mine said that he's seen a copyright licence for a > particular > > > PDF document that said that the person did not have the right to read > the > > > document aloud. > > > > > > Fair use will get killed off if we let it. > > > > > > Geoff. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org
