A technology law degree? That sounds i nteresting.Someone in that field would have some rather interesting cases. ----- Original Message ----- From: Amanda Lee <amanda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:02 PM Subject: Re: Problems with pdf files. > I would of course David! as you would indeed represent ample expertise but > given they laughed a hacker out of court, I seriously doubt they would go > after a well-documented claim for Accessibility. > > Maybe I should go and get a Technology Law Degree. Perhaps I'd better serve > others than working for a major corporation who has lost all sense of the > value of human resources and for it's product. > > As someone else said here, I doubt that if we did develop a utility, that > many sighted persons would care about it in the first place. The output > most definitely isn't what those with a pair of working eyes would want to > view.. We certainly would have nothing to market but for the sake of > Accessibility to information which is presented to anyone else in the first > place. > > I believe it is reasonable to state that the reason why these permission > flags are set is to prevent a company like RadioShack and Best Buy who > commonly produce documents in this manner, from being scalped by their > competition. > > We aren't anybody's competition and that's a fact hahahahah! > > Amanda Lee > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1 at home.com> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:44 PM > Subject: Re: Problems with pdf files. > > > > not if they call me as an expert witness. that is reverse > > discrimination. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Amanda Lee" <amanda at shellworld.net> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:30 PM > > Subject: Re: Problems with pdf files. > > > > > > I bet we could beat them on the technicality that as persons who are > > blind > > seeking to enable a document to be accessible and in an alternate format > > which we otherwise could not read, is this side of the law but provided > > one > > uses the information for his or her own use and does not post it where > > it > > can be accessed by others, then doubt there's much that would hold-up in > > a > > court of law. > > > > So if I have a colleague print the document and I then scan it with an > > OCR > > program, is that illegal? Yet I technically would have displayed the > > document in another form. So I also suppose it is illegal to magnify > > the > > font on the screen so that a low vision person can read it? Godf > > forbid! > > don't change the colors on your screen such that it is easier for > > someone > > who needs different color contrast. So let's a bunch ofblind folks get > > together and write a .pdf cracker! I'm ready to go to jail in protest! > > hahahahaha! it's tempting because this is really against the ADA and > > Section 508 and against other laws. I feel sorry for the poor slob who > > went > > to jail. I'd like to see where this case is documented. > > > > Amanda Lee > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kirk Wood" <cpt.kirk at 1tree.net> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:27 PM > > Subject: Re: Problems with pdf files. > > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Steve Holmes wrote: > > > > .... Key here is > > > > getting around copy-protection. I really fault Adobe systems on this > > one. > > > > Surely, there's gotta be a way to expose PDF text to the reader with > > or > > > > with out a password .... > > > > > > There is a way. And the lead programmer recently was realeased after > > > spending five months in jail without a trial. He was allowed to return > > to > > > Rusia. If you want to find the program he wrote it is out there. But > > > before some dumb ass asks, no I won't point you to it. The whole DeCSS > > > trial in the states is over pointing people to a program to circumvent > > > such things. I won't be lucky enough to have the EFF help with my > > defense > > > and I know nobody here will send enough money to make up for my lost > > wages > > > alone. > > > > > > ======= > > > Kirk Wood > > > Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net > > > > > > Nowlan's Theory: > > > He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from > > > the next freeway exit. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
