this is OT, but actually, having tried to learn braille by sight, I found that it was a lot less confusing by touch; for example: by sight the "e" and "i" symbols look the same (to me) but feel nothing alike. now you ask why I wanted to teach myself braille huh? > A sighted person can read braille with their eyes too, maybe better then > some of us with our hands. So, why aren't they all learning it if they can > use it too and thus make our lives easier to some degree? Greg