Amanda, exactly, exactly, exactly. Greg On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:43:23PM -0500, Amanda Lee wrote: > They'd rather you: > > "don't ask/don't tell!" > > they simply do not care. A pc is a tool to the masses and nothing more and > they don't want to be troubled with the minutia of technical information. > They want to push a button and see their results. > > I'd personally like to do the same thing if I knew that my outcome is the > same but it doesn't work that way when we aren't able to use our > technologies to track in the same > manner as able-sighted persons. I have received more than one form > developed in Word and it is the most hosed up piece o'junk! I've never > received a Word Form which I can reliably fillout and, unless I used a > Braille display, there was no way to determine where the data was being > entered. > > > I do not subscribe to the notion that just because a person who is blind can > marginally interact with an application in Windows, that he or she must do > so to conform with what those who are clueless about how we function in the > first place. If you can perform a task in Linux or DOS more effectively, > provided the outcome is the same, why spend more time doing it in Windows > merely for the sake of conformity. Performance is key not conformity > because in this day and age, we are expected to accomplish more in less > time. > > Amanda Lee > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1 at uic.edu> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:14 PM > Subject: Re: anti-word > > > > And how do you expect them to know about the other platforms if all they > know about their windows computer is how to turn it on and off? > > Greg > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:17:03PM -0500, Charles Crawford wrote: > > > Hello Amanda, Janina and other interested listers, > > > > > > Well, looks like the world of advocacy is impinging on planet > > > Linux. It is correct to point out that in the ideal there should not be > a > > > word processing standard imposed by a company, but as we all know, the > > > sender of a word file getting a text file back might not see the world > in > > > the same way. Don't you just hate it when that happens. Smile. > > > > > > I guess my view is that if word users want to communicate with > > > those who don't use word, then they have to adjust to the realities of > > > other computer platforms. Consumer choice still has it's place! > > > > > > -- Charlie Crawford. > > > > > > > > > > > > At 11:09 AM 01/13/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Amen! to that Janina! > > > > > > > >Amanda > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > > > >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > >Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:06 AM > > > >Subject: Re: anti-word > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Steve Holmes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes and if a word document is sent to you for your input and > editing, > > > >I'm > > > > > > sure the original party would expect the thing to come back in > Word > > > >format > > > > > > along with the built-in formatting, styles and such. Some of this > whole > > > > > > anti Word sounds arogant to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I rather think it arrogant to presume everyone wants and reads Word. > I > > > > > regard it as arrogant to presume we all pay tribute to Microsoft. I > > > > > further regard it arrogant to treat a proprietary, non-consensus, > file > > > > > format as some kind of standard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Speakup mailing list > > > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
