Hi Don't worry we've done it too before. I'd added the following to a start up script: /sbin/modprobe snd-card-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe snd-mixer-oss /sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss /usr/sbin/alsactl restore Although Kirk offered me an update version but I found these to work very well. My major problem was that of permissions have you added yourself to the audio group? Are the devices set to the audio group? I always get mixed up and its difficult to remember on a MS box, so just type man chmod and man chown and they'll provide the appropriate information if necessary. I hope that I'm not telling granny ...... Oh and to rub it in further, type ls -l /dev/dsp to view the current situation. Hope I'm not being patronising and hope that is of some help. Gena -----Original Message----- From: speakup-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Thomas Stivers Sent: 27 September 2001 15:20 To: 'speakup at braille.uwo.ca' Subject: RE: anotheer alsa question I feel a little dumb, but I ddiscovered that I was trying to load a nonexistant misspelled emu10k1 driver for my sblive. I got the driver to load and alsa sees the card now, but when I try to use mpg123 for example it cannot find /dev/dsp. Do I need to make this a link to a new device now that alsa is running the card? I am discovering that every time you answer/solve one question/problem in linux you find a new one *grin*. Thanks for the help. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup