Hi Buddy, Did I get you on a bad day. I think Speakup is great! I was not in any way dissing Kirk and any other developers; they have been doing a great job. I was simply asking a few questions, and actually offering to be "one of those smart people" that you frequently mentioned. I'm only replying to your rant to see whether or not I can clear up any bad feelings. Kindest regards, Saqib Shaikh