let's not forget <br> but don't condemn too quickly: <b></b> <i></i> <strong></strong> and what about the wonderful: <center></center> and the neat <hr> with it's possible attribs. Whilst I agree that style sheets are the way to go for massive effectiveness It can be hard to implement them propperly and simple html without breaking any rules can go far in good stead. Also, there is nothing wrong with coding link colors by the numbers. If we don't get this correct, someone will be telling us that we can use blue, green and read just like that which doesn't work well for most presentation tools. Enjoy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:23 AM Subject: Re: html coding. There are a lot of disability no'no's in what you're talking about. Please try to be part of the solution, and not part of the problem on this one. Look at http://www.w3.org/wai/ to learn the how, why, and wherefore of all of this. The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) took on accessibility in a very serious way back in 1996. Since then, many brilliant minds from all over the planet have worked to define good web practices. The output of their efforts is in the uri I just gave. Essentially, the correct answer to your question is very short. Display attributes ;should be handled by cascading style sheets. The html itself should be informational, and not presentational. In other words, the information and how it looks have been seperated into two separate specifications in order to support alternate displays such as speech, braille, small screens, large print, different languages, etc., etc. So, consentrate on learning about parallel structures -- the <p> </p> tags; list items -- the <li> tag; ordered and unordered lists -- <ol> and <ul>; etc. Leave the presentational elements until you've mastered conveying information. OK, you did ask! <grin> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Shaun Oliver wrote: > hi guys. I'm just starting out with raw coding of html. > is there a way I can do silly things like set the colours and formatting > atributes like bold, underline, etc? > thanks in advance. > > > > Shaun.. > > Cat, n.: > Lapwarmer with built-in buzzer. > > Email: shauno at goanna.net.au > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
