Excuse me? I don't understand you. In the last day or so you've been saying that Pine and Lynx don't track, and you've been asking about make config and make menuconfig. Are you now saying you don't have a talking linux installation after all? Clearly, a sighted person would prefer to use make menuconfig because there's the ready opportunity to go back and change one's mind about any particular item--something for which I specified the work around in an email yesterday. Are you concerned that somehow make config and make menuconfig make totaly different linuxes? That's probably understandable thinking for someone coming from the commercial software world--but it doesn't apply here. PS: If memory serves, you also wrote yesterday that the wrong synth was specified for speakup during this make menuconfig process. If that's the case, you fix that in your /etc/lilo.conf and, after you've fixed it, run lilo to execute the new configuration. You'll need an 'append="speakup_synth=XXXX""' entry below the READONLY of your kernel specification. On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Deedra Waters wrote: > ok, you've answered a lot of my questions and I really appreciate this... > but um... how can I do this if I don't have speech right now? *grin* > > On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > make config > > > > instead of > > > > make menuconfig > > > > will give you choices one at a time. The downside of this approach is that > > you don't have the option to go back and forth among various selections > > until you have things the way you want them. The advantage is that speech > > will be robust. > > > > Once you have a .config file you like save it off to a separate location. > > This way, the next time you want to compile a kernel you can copy this old > > configuration file into the root of the kernel tree (i.e. /usr/src/linux) > > and do a > > > > make oldconfig > > > > This is advantageous. You'll hate make config the first time you run it > > because it asks a gazillion questions. But, after you've done this once, > > make oldconfig will ask only about new things. > > > > Also, here's what dto do if you think something in your config needs to > > change--or if you realize you've made a mistake during the make config > > process, but can't go back because that's the nature of the beast. > > > > Pull up the .config file in your favorite editor and find the line in > > question. Delete that entire line--do not edit it. You can delete one line > > or many lines, as needed. Then, do a: > > > > make oldconfig > > > > and you'll be asked about the options you deleted only. > > > > This make oldconfig makes compiling new kernels a breeze. > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > Learn how to make accessible software at > > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp