Hi, Tim: Congrats on getting the linux box back! On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Tim Burgess wrote: > I booted from the boot disk generated at the end of the Slackware > installation procedure and got access back right away. Right on. That's exactly what it's for. I like to call it the "get out of jail free disk." <<<snip snip>>> > 1 - When I'm booting a new kernel, can I redirect the screen output to a > file so that I can review the messages generated (including any panics) to > aid my trouble-shooting? We have a spaghetti sauce here in the States that has a commercial which uses the phrase: "It's already in there." So, Tim, take a look at /var/log and have at all the logs you need. They're already in there. > 2 - Once I've got a good (booting) 2.2.18, how do I update my wonderful boot > disk (or create a new one)? > Well, don't know about slackware, but on Redhat there's a script: mkbootdisk PS: I don't think you're a pain at all. Janina > Sorry to be a pain, but I promise I'll keep plugging at it until I > understand this stuff and then I'll take my turn at helping others who are > starting out. I'm saving all of the messages and I'll be using them to > create a guide for new blinux-types on my up-coming web site. > > Tim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: 02 October 2001 19:17 > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > Subject: RE: New Kernel Survival Strategies > > > Absolutely, all the way around. > > Bill's is an ftp site that you can access via anonymous > ftp at > ftp://speakup.octothorp.org. > > Once there, cd /pub/redhat and further as appropriate. There is indeed a > full Redhat 7.1 installation set. The file you want, and it's path is: > > /pub/redhat-7.1/d1/images/boot.img > > This is the image for the floppy. If you don't already have it, you will > also need rawrite which is at: > > /pub/redhat-7.1/d1/dosimages/rawrite.exe > > This is a DOS executable for creating floppies from floppy image files. > > NOTE: You may need to kill your screen reader while running rawrite in > order to avoid data corruption on the floppy. It may also be advisable to > run from an actual DOS boot, or a shutdown to MS-DOS as opposed to running > in a DOS window in Windows. > > You can safely run your screen reader while answering questions from > rawrite. It will ask you what file you want to use for the image, what > drive to write to, and a third question probably like "press enter when > ready." I don't recall the exact sequence, but it's OK to wait until the > third question to kill speech. That way, you need only press enter and > wait for the floppy to stop spinning. > > Good luck, and stay in touch about this. We'll get you up in linux yet! > <grin> > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Tim Burgess > wrote: > > > Hi again, > > > > Do you have the URL for Bill's site and does he have such disks for > > Slackware (7.1 in my case)? > > > > Thanks yet again. > > > > Tim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca > > [mailto:speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > > Sent: 02 October 2001 18:18 > > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: RE: New Kernel Survival Strategies > > > > > > Hi, Tim: > > > > Best avenue back to your broken linux system may well be a speakup enabled > > floppy that can take you into rescue mode. You could do this with the > > Redhat installation boot floppies on Bill's site, for example: > > > > vmlinuz -s speakup_synth=ltlk > > > > or perhaps: > > > > vmlinuz rescue speakup_synth=dectlk > > > > Obviously, you would specify the correct synth you have. > > > > If you can get the machine up this way, your lilo.conf can be fixed. > > > > On Tue, 2 > > Oct 2001, Tim Burgess wrote: > > > > > Hi and thanks. > > > > > > I'll give it a study and try again - this time I got as far as a > > successful > > > compile based on 2.2.18 with SpeakUp 0.10a. However I got a kernel > panic > > > that's killed me and I don't know how to boot back to my > /boot/vmlinuz.old > > > as I messed up lilo.conf. Looks like another rebuild. If it's true > that > > we > > > learn by our mistakes then I'm going to wind up a real guru at this > rate. > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca > > > [mailto:speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > > > Sent: 02 October 2001 16:49 > > > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > Subject: RE: New Kernel Survival Strategies > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Tim Burgess wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > This sounds like an excellent strategy to me. Would you be willing to > > > > provide your lilo.conf as a reference for us newbies who have just > > fallen > > > > foul of getting lilo.conf wrong? > > > > > > > No problem. Here it is. Beware, though, that your circumstances may be > > > different, i.e. lba32, vga=, initrd's, and such things. > > > > > > The other important survival tool is a bootable floppy disk. Here's my > > > /etc/lilo.conf: > > > > > > boot=/dev/hda > > > map=/boot/map > > > install=/boot/boot.b > > > compact > > > prompt > > > timeout=500 > > > message=/boot/message > > > lba32 > > > default=current > > > serial=0,9600N8 > > > > > > image=/boot/new > > > label = new > > > alias = n > > > vga=0X317 > > > initrd=/boot/initrd.img-new > > > read-only > > > root=/dev/hda1 > > > append = "hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > > > > > image = /boot/current > > > label=current > > > alias = c > > > vga=0X317 > > > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > > > read-only > > > root=/dev/hda1 > > > append = "hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > > > > > image = /boot/current > > > label=express > > > alias = x > > > vga=0X317 > > > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > > > read-only > > > root=/dev/hda1 > > > append = "speakup_synth=dectlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > > > > > image = /boot/current > > > label=litetalk > > > alias = l > > > vga=0X317 > > > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > > > read-only > > > root=/dev/hda1 > > > append = "speakup_synth=ltlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > > > > > image = /boot/current > > > label=bns > > > alias = b > > > vga=0X317 > > > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > > > read-only > > > root=/dev/hda1 > > > append = "speakup_synth=bns hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > > > > > image = /boot/previous > > > label=previous > > > alias = p > > > vga=0X317 > > > initrd=/boot/initrd.img-previous > > > read-only > > > root=/dev/hda1 > > > append = "hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > > > > > other=/dev/hda3 > > > optional > > > label=dos > > > > > > table = /dev/hda > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca > > > > [mailto:speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > > > > Sent: 02 October 2001 14:53 > > > > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > Subject: New Kernel Survival Strategies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, since we're on the subject of new kernel strategies, I've > changed > > > > the subject line. > > > > > > > > Now, I'd like to modestly offer my strategy. > > > > > > > > Here's what I do: > > > > > > > > I have three entries in my lilo.conf, previous, current, and new. > These > > > > are the image labels. In my /boot directory, I symlink the appropriate > > > > vmlinuz to previous and current. New is actually symlinked to > > > > /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage, which does work with my lilo > and > > > > bios. > > > > > > > > Now, when I gen a new kernel, I have to actively select it during > > > > boot--and I have to specify the speakup synth parm. > > > > > > > > Previous is there mainly in case I make a mistake copying a new kernel > > > > into current. > > > > > > > > PS: I use several synths on my laptop--including none. Each of these > is > > a > > > > separate entry in lilo.conf pointing to current and differes only on > the > > > > append= line, of course. > > > > > > > > This has worked very well for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Kirk Wood wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > > > > > > I second the advice to not fear configuring kernels. The > > > > > > main thing is to first do no harm. If you have a working kernel, > > > > > > by all means, save it. ..... > > > > > > > > > > Better yet, just leave it just as it is. After you compile your new > > > kernel > > > > > copy/move it to the /boot directory (or partition) and then make > > another > > > > > entry in lilo.conf for the new kernel. You can copy everything from > > your > > > > > current (hopefully working) entry changing the label and the name of > > the > > > > > kernel itself. If this is the only modification, then you can boot > > back > > > by > > > > > simply doing nothing. If you want to try the new kernel hit the tab > > key > > > > > right as the computer starts to boot. Then type the label for hte > new > > > > > kernel and hit enter. > > > > > > > > > > Things to avoid are believing you need to name your kernel just like > > the > > > > > one that is there (probably vmlinuz). This is great for making it so > > > that > > > > > anyone can find it. But you can always refer to lilo as well. I name > > > mine > > > > > with a combo of version info and other stuff (such as 2.2.17-music > for > > > > > when I configured to use the also drivers). This makes it easy for > me > > to > > > > > tell what was for what. I like to keep multiple kernels arround. If > > > > > something goes goofy in hardware one may be able to get by the > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > ======= > > > > > Kirk Wood > > > > > Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net > > > > > > > > > > "When I take action, I'm not going to fire a $2 million missle at > > > > > a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be > > > decisive." > > > > > - President George Bush > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > > > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > > > > > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > > > > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > > > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > > > > > Learn how to make accessible software at > > > > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > > > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > > > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > > > Learn how to make accessible software at > > > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > Learn how to make accessible software at > > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > Learn how to make accessible software at > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp
