Hi, Tim: Best avenue back to your broken linux system may well be a speakup enabled floppy that can take you into rescue mode. You could do this with the Redhat installation boot floppies on Bill's site, for example: vmlinuz -s speakup_synth=ltlk or perhaps: vmlinuz rescue speakup_synth=dectlk Obviously, you would specify the correct synth you have. If you can get the machine up this way, your lilo.conf can be fixed. On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Tim Burgess wrote: > Hi and thanks. > > I'll give it a study and try again - this time I got as far as a successful > compile based on 2.2.18 with SpeakUp 0.10a. However I got a kernel panic > that's killed me and I don't know how to boot back to my /boot/vmlinuz.old > as I messed up lilo.conf. Looks like another rebuild. If it's true that we > learn by our mistakes then I'm going to wind up a real guru at this rate. > > Best wishes. > > Tim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: 02 October 2001 16:49 > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > Subject: RE: New Kernel Survival Strategies > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Tim Burgess wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > This sounds like an excellent strategy to me. Would you be willing to > > provide your lilo.conf as a reference for us newbies who have just fallen > > foul of getting lilo.conf wrong? > > > No problem. Here it is. Beware, though, that your circumstances may be > different, i.e. lba32, vga=, initrd's, and such things. > > The other important survival tool is a bootable floppy disk. Here's my > /etc/lilo.conf: > > boot=/dev/hda > map=/boot/map > install=/boot/boot.b > compact > prompt > timeout=500 > message=/boot/message > lba32 > default=current > serial=0,9600N8 > > image=/boot/new > label = new > alias = n > vga=0X317 > initrd=/boot/initrd.img-new > read-only > root=/dev/hda1 > append = "hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > image = /boot/current > label=current > alias = c > vga=0X317 > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > read-only > root=/dev/hda1 > append = "hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > image = /boot/current > label=express > alias = x > vga=0X317 > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > read-only > root=/dev/hda1 > append = "speakup_synth=dectlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > image = /boot/current > label=litetalk > alias = l > vga=0X317 > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > read-only > root=/dev/hda1 > append = "speakup_synth=ltlk hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > image = /boot/current > label=bns > alias = b > vga=0X317 > initrd=/boot/initrd.img > read-only > root=/dev/hda1 > append = "speakup_synth=bns hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > image = /boot/previous > label=previous > alias = p > vga=0X317 > initrd=/boot/initrd.img-previous > read-only > root=/dev/hda1 > append = "hdc=ide-scsi hde=ide-scsi" > > other=/dev/hda3 > optional > label=dos > > table = /dev/hda > > > Thanks. > > > > Tim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca > > [mailto:speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > > Sent: 02 October 2001 14:53 > > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: New Kernel Survival Strategies > > > > > > > > Well, since we're on the subject of new kernel strategies, I've changed > > the subject line. > > > > Now, I'd like to modestly offer my strategy. > > > > Here's what I do: > > > > I have three entries in my lilo.conf, previous, current, and new. These > > are the image labels. In my /boot directory, I symlink the appropriate > > vmlinuz to previous and current. New is actually symlinked to > > /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage, which does work with my lilo and > > bios. > > > > Now, when I gen a new kernel, I have to actively select it during > > boot--and I have to specify the speakup synth parm. > > > > Previous is there mainly in case I make a mistake copying a new kernel > > into current. > > > > PS: I use several synths on my laptop--including none. Each of these is a > > separate entry in lilo.conf pointing to current and differes only on the > > append= line, of course. > > > > This has worked very well for me. > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Kirk Wood wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > > > > I second the advice to not fear configuring kernels. The > > > > main thing is to first do no harm. If you have a working kernel, > > > > by all means, save it. ..... > > > > > > Better yet, just leave it just as it is. After you compile your new > kernel > > > copy/move it to the /boot directory (or partition) and then make another > > > entry in lilo.conf for the new kernel. You can copy everything from your > > > current (hopefully working) entry changing the label and the name of the > > > kernel itself. If this is the only modification, then you can boot back > by > > > simply doing nothing. If you want to try the new kernel hit the tab key > > > right as the computer starts to boot. Then type the label for hte new > > > kernel and hit enter. > > > > > > Things to avoid are believing you need to name your kernel just like the > > > one that is there (probably vmlinuz). This is great for making it so > that > > > anyone can find it. But you can always refer to lilo as well. I name > mine > > > with a combo of version info and other stuff (such as 2.2.17-music for > > > when I configured to use the also drivers). This makes it easy for me to > > > tell what was for what. I like to keep multiple kernels arround. If > > > something goes goofy in hardware one may be able to get by the problem. > > > > > > ======= > > > Kirk Wood > > > Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net > > > > > > "When I take action, I'm not going to fire a $2 million missle at > > > a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be > decisive." > > > - President George Bush > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? 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Read our white paper, > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > Learn how to make accessible software at > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp