Hi, Stephen: Thanks for the correction. This does seem to be the correct uri, but didn't you say this was shareware? What I see is a 30-day free trial and a $99 licensing fee. That's not necessarily a killer condition, I suppose, but I would think that a little tweaking with screen reader set files would be a preferable first step. Glad to have the uri. Thanks again. On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Dawes, Stephen wrote: > > Sorry Janina, I gave you some misinformation.? I was reading from the help about file, and gave you the url from the parts copy right by: entry.? > > Here is the url taken from help about, and I have tested it, and it is now the correct one. > > http://www.vandyke.com > > Again, sorry for the confusion! > > > Stephen Dawes B.A. B.Sc. > Web Business Office, The City of Calgary > PHONE:? (403) 268-5527. > FAX: (403) 268-6423 > E-MAIL ADDRESS:? Stephen.Dawes at gov.calgary.ab.ca > Internet: http://www.gov.calgary.ab.ca > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina at afb.net] > > Sent: 2001 October 01 6:13 PM > > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: RE: Secure Server Management Report > > > > > > > > I did not see secure crt on this site. Perhaps it's there and > > I'm just > > tired of poking around on websites, but I did look. > > > > I will say that it seems there are several clients out there, > > but they all > > seem to have either the ssh.com or the OpenSSH code at their core. > > > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Dawes, Stephen wrote: > > > > > > > > I have been using secure crt from: > > > > > > http://www.core-sdi.com > > > > > > This SSH client works well with: > > > JFW Versions: 3.70, 3.71, & 4.00. > > > > > > Secure CRT is share ware, and I don't remember the licence > > cost.? The only short coming that I have found with Secure CRT > > > is that it does not have an implementation of SCP, which > > would eliminate the need for secure ftp. > > > > > > > > > Stephen Dawes B.A. B.Sc. > > > Web Business Office, The City of Calgary > > > PHONE:? (403) 268-5527. > > > FAX: (403) 268-6423 > > > E-MAIL ADDRESS:? Stephen.Dawes at gov.calgary.ab.ca > > > Internet: http://www.gov.calgary.ab.ca > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina at afb.net] > > > > Sent: 2001 October 01 12:41 PM > > > > To: Charles Crawford; Matt Campbell; Earlene Hughes > > > > Cc: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > Subject: Secure Server Management Report > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues: > > > > > > > > This report summarizes my explorations of functionality and > > > > accessibility > > > > in current SSH clients for Windows. As you will recall, I > > (and others) > > > > have strongly advised against using telnet and ftp for > > > > administration of > > > > ACB's remote web server simply because these applications are > > > > insecure. > > > > Rather, SSH is recommended because it provides the same > > > > functionality but > > > > in a manner where all of the information transmitted > > across the public > > > > Internet has been secured with strong data encryption. This is > > > > particularly important for usernames and passwords which > > > > allow access to > > > > system level functions on this remote server. And, such security > > > > precautions have only become more important since the events > > > > of September > > > > 11 last. > > > > > > > > Fortunately, the news for ACB is very good. I will point you > > > > to a fully > > > > accessible and fully featured ftp client with full support > > > > for ssh2--the > > > > current standard. This should take care of the need to move > > > > files back and > > > > forth very nicely. The news for command line access isn't > > > > quite as good, > > > > though it is still not bad. Herewith the details: > > > > > > > > 1.)?? File Transfer Agents > > > > > > > > There is really only one choice here. CuteFTP Pro 1.0 has > > > > absolutely everything ACB needs to manage files on its remote > > > > server securely. CuteFTP Pro stands head and shoulders above > > > > the competition both on accessibility and on ftp features. > > > > It is, unfortunately, not a free software program, but it is > > > > very excellent all the way around. Be sure you get CuteFTP > > > > Pro 1.0, and not the older CuteFtp 3.5 or 4.0 clients which > > > > do NOT support ssh. A free 30 day trial copy can be > > > > downloaded from GlobalScape, the manufacturer of CuteFTP Pro at: > > > > > > > > http://www.globalscape.com/download/index.shtml > > > > > > > > My second, and very viable, choice for managing these files > > > > remotely is the DOS command line utilities that are > > > > available in the SSH for Windows 32-bit operating > > > > environments client available free of charge to nonprofits at > > > > > > > > ????? http://www.ssh.com > > > > > > > > Regretably, the Windows utilities in this package are only > > > > partially accessible. But, they are also only partly as > > > > capable as Cute FTP -- lacking such important features as > > > > "resume upload." Still, the DOS ports of the unix commands scp > > > > and sftp will work very well for anyone who still has good > > > > speech access to DOS; > > > > > > > > 2.)?? Terminal Access > > > > > > > > The options for a good command line on the web server are not > > > > as clear as for file management. Fortunately, though, > > > > there are very good secure substitutes for telnet, and their > > > > accessibility is probably no less than the accessibility > > > > for the various telnet clients. Let me explain: > > > > > > > > Not unlike the circumstances in available telnet clients, > > > > available ssh clients range from fully accessible clients to > > > > not so accessible ones. And, the reasons for this are > > > > substantially the same because, after the connection is made, what > > > > telnet presents onscreen is no different than what ssh > > > > presents onscreen. > > > > > > > > So, if you think that telnet is accessible on Windows, you > > > > will likely get the same level of accessibility from the > > > > SSH Client for Windows available from: > > > > > > > > ????? http://www.ssh.com > > > > > > > > In order to get the same functionality, however, you will > > > > likely need to apply whatever set files are associated with > > > > your Windows telnet client to this SSH application. > > > > > > > > If, on the other hand, you are able to run in DOS, you will > > > > find the command line version which comes with this > > > > application vastly superior. This DOS client simply works > > > > with asap or vocal-eyes. > > > > > > > > CONCLUSIONS > > > > > > > > The Windows CuteFTP Pro 1.0 client should be used for secure > > > > remote file management; > > > > > > > > The DOS SSH2.EXE client from ssh.com should be used for > > > > secure remote terminal access; > > > > > > > > The telnet server should be removed from the web server; > > > > > > > > FTP access should be limited to anonymous access only; > > > > > > > > ADDITIONAL NOTES > > > > > > > > There is yet another SSH application available on Windows > > > > called PuTTY. While it is not as accessible, in my view, as > > > > the applications named above, it could be as accessible if a > > > > competent programmer were to fix the interface. This is > > > > possible because PuTTY is an open source application. The > > > > source code, documentation, and current executables for PuTTY > > > > can be found at: > > > > > > > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ > > > > > > > > Respectfully Submitted, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ????? > > > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? Janina Sajka, Director > > > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? Technology Research and Development > > > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? Governmental Relations Group > > > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? American Foundation for the > > Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > Email: janina at afb.net ??????? Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > > > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > > > > > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of > > Martin Luther > > > > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > > > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > > > > > Learn how to make accessible software at > > > > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Speakup > > mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > ????? > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? Janina Sajka, Director > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? Technology Research and Development > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? Governmental Relations Group > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net ??????? Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > Learn how to make accessible software at > > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp
