I did not see secure crt on this site. Perhaps it's there and I'm just tired of poking around on websites, but I did look. I will say that it seems there are several clients out there, but they all seem to have either the ssh.com or the OpenSSH code at their core. On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Dawes, Stephen wrote: > > I have been using secure crt from: > > http://www.core-sdi.com > > This SSH client works well with: > JFW Versions: 3.70, 3.71, & 4.00. > > Secure CRT is share ware, and I don't remember the licence cost.? The only short coming that I have found with Secure CRT > is that it does not have an implementation of SCP, which would eliminate the need for secure ftp. > > > Stephen Dawes B.A. B.Sc. > Web Business Office, The City of Calgary > PHONE:? (403) 268-5527. > FAX: (403) 268-6423 > E-MAIL ADDRESS:? Stephen.Dawes at gov.calgary.ab.ca > Internet: http://www.gov.calgary.ab.ca > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina at afb.net] > > Sent: 2001 October 01 12:41 PM > > To: Charles Crawford; Matt Campbell; Earlene Hughes > > Cc: speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > Subject: Secure Server Management Report > > > > > > Dear Colleagues: > > > > This report summarizes my explorations of functionality and > > accessibility > > in current SSH clients for Windows. As you will recall, I (and others) > > have strongly advised against using telnet and ftp for > > administration of > > ACB's remote web server simply because these applications are > > insecure. > > Rather, SSH is recommended because it provides the same > > functionality but > > in a manner where all of the information transmitted across the public > > Internet has been secured with strong data encryption. This is > > particularly important for usernames and passwords which > > allow access to > > system level functions on this remote server. And, such security > > precautions have only become more important since the events > > of September > > 11 last. > > > > Fortunately, the news for ACB is very good. I will point you > > to a fully > > accessible and fully featured ftp client with full support > > for ssh2--the > > current standard. This should take care of the need to move > > files back and > > forth very nicely. The news for command line access isn't > > quite as good, > > though it is still not bad. Herewith the details: > > > > 1.)?? File Transfer Agents > > > > There is really only one choice here. CuteFTP Pro 1.0 has > > absolutely everything ACB needs to manage files on its remote > > server securely. CuteFTP Pro stands head and shoulders above > > the competition both on accessibility and on ftp features. > > It is, unfortunately, not a free software program, but it is > > very excellent all the way around. Be sure you get CuteFTP > > Pro 1.0, and not the older CuteFtp 3.5 or 4.0 clients which > > do NOT support ssh. A free 30 day trial copy can be > > downloaded from GlobalScape, the manufacturer of CuteFTP Pro at: > > > > http://www.globalscape.com/download/index.shtml > > > > My second, and very viable, choice for managing these files > > remotely is the DOS command line utilities that are > > available in the SSH for Windows 32-bit operating > > environments client available free of charge to nonprofits at > > > > ????? http://www.ssh.com > > > > Regretably, the Windows utilities in this package are only > > partially accessible. But, they are also only partly as > > capable as Cute FTP -- lacking such important features as > > "resume upload." Still, the DOS ports of the unix commands scp > > and sftp will work very well for anyone who still has good > > speech access to DOS; > > > > 2.)?? Terminal Access > > > > The options for a good command line on the web server are not > > as clear as for file management. Fortunately, though, > > there are very good secure substitutes for telnet, and their > > accessibility is probably no less than the accessibility > > for the various telnet clients. Let me explain: > > > > Not unlike the circumstances in available telnet clients, > > available ssh clients range from fully accessible clients to > > not so accessible ones. And, the reasons for this are > > substantially the same because, after the connection is made, what > > telnet presents onscreen is no different than what ssh > > presents onscreen. > > > > So, if you think that telnet is accessible on Windows, you > > will likely get the same level of accessibility from the > > SSH Client for Windows available from: > > > > ????? http://www.ssh.com > > > > In order to get the same functionality, however, you will > > likely need to apply whatever set files are associated with > > your Windows telnet client to this SSH application. > > > > If, on the other hand, you are able to run in DOS, you will > > find the command line version which comes with this > > application vastly superior. This DOS client simply works > > with asap or vocal-eyes. > > > > CONCLUSIONS > > > > The Windows CuteFTP Pro 1.0 client should be used for secure > > remote file management; > > > > The DOS SSH2.EXE client from ssh.com should be used for > > secure remote terminal access; > > > > The telnet server should be removed from the web server; > > > > FTP access should be limited to anonymous access only; > > > > ADDITIONAL NOTES > > > > There is yet another SSH application available on Windows > > called PuTTY. While it is not as accessible, in my view, as > > the applications named above, it could be as accessible if a > > competent programmer were to fix the interface. This is > > possible because PuTTY is an open source application. The > > source code, documentation, and current executables for PuTTY > > can be found at: > > > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ > > > > Respectfully Submitted, > > > > > > -- > > ????? > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? Janina Sajka, Director > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? Technology Research and Development > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? Governmental Relations Group > > ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net ??????? Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > Learn how to make accessible software at > > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp