no windows screen reader will work from my understanding because there are things deep in the core of windows that windows screen readers use. you might be able to use some of the primitive solutions but if msaa support is required, I wouldn't count on being able to use the software. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:37 AM Subject: Re: Lindows preview. Would window-eyes work? Greg On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 05:08:30AM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote: > I personally consider it unlikely that JFW will work under Wine/Lindows. > This is largely because JFW does some rather, erm shall we say naughty, > things to get information from the screen. Furthermore not sure that MSAA > would work. However I am hopeful that Hal from Dolphin would work. This is > because Hal follows all the rules far more stringently, and so if Wine can > just capture all GDI system calls and translate them into Linux terms > there's no reason why it won't work. > > Saqib > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Ward" <tward at bright.net> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:58 AM > Subject: Re: Lindows preview. > > > > However, as long as you put thedependent dll files somewhere your screen > > reader can find them it might work. > > I had a problem some months back with a copy of JFW, and I managed to > badger > > Freedom Scientific into giving me the name of the dependancy dll files so > I > > didn't have to upgrade Internet Explorer everytime they got a whim to > > update. > > So there is a chance, although slim, that wine could support a screen > > reader. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jason" <unleet at qwest.net> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:10 PM > > Subject: Re: Lindows preview. > > > > > > > OK, here's the deal on "lindows" > > > It uses "Wine", a "Windows compatability layer" for linux. Wine requires > > X. > > > My best guess is that JAWS for windows won't run under Wine. I don't > have > > a > > > copy to test with myself, but knowing what I do about the way Wine > > seperates > > > programs from each other quite a bit more than Windows does I doubt the > > > needed "common ground" that JAWS depends on would be present. > > > > > > Oh yeah, as an aside, the version of Wine that lindows will ship with is > > > modified slightly; it contains significantly better support for DirectX > > and > > > OpenGL than the regular version of Wine. > > > > > > On a completely unrelated note, it could be possible to write a version > of > > > Wine that doesn't use X and simply dumps text to a console for speakup, > or > > > whatever else, to read. No, I'm not volunteering for that project :-P > > > But if anytone happens to want to start a project to hack X and the > > relevent > > > toolkit libraries into accessible submission, I'll join, I've even got > the > > > beginnings of a structure worked out for all of it. > > > > > > (hmmm.... this e-mail got a lot longer than I intended) > > > > > > On Tuesday November 27, 2001 02:35 am, you wrote: > > > > the same question occurred to me too. > > > > but it also occurred to me that if lindows is able to run both linux > and > > > > windows programs as suggested, would you not be able to run your > > > > existing windows screen reader as well as speakup? > > > > of course not at the same time <evil grin> > > > > I thought that the idea of lindows was to have a thin translation > layer > > > > for interpreting windows stuff. > > > > at least that's what I remember from what I've seen about it anyway. > > > > On > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
