i'm sorry to hear that you won't be able to add a cdrom, but fortunately there are many other options here. Option 1: you may considder some external drive system. I don't know if you have a usb port or not, but external hard drives are a great way to backup and install files to your Linux box. If built into the kernel a external USB or Parallel Zip drive is another great tool. Lastly, you could buy a small network kit from someone like Linksys, and set up your computer to share files and drives. I baught such a kit myself, and am happy with it. For $60 I got a Linksys hub, two cables, and two Linksys PCI nics. However, this may or may not be an option for you depending on how skilled you are with networking computers. Although, I found this to be a great option, and great way to share files. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Daniels" <Labitup@xxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Another newbie > Thanks Tom. Unfortunately, no way to add a CDROM to this machine. It's a > very small computer, (2.5X11.5X8.5) it has built-in everything, and room > for only a hard disk and a floppy. I picked it up for $25 a while ago, and > thought it would make a neat Linux box. Perhaps a parallel CD drive will > become a possibility for me down the road. > > I already have the Speakup files on the system and will just go ahead and > begin reading the kernal info and start that learning curve now. If I run > into problems, I know where to come for help. > > Jack > At 11:32 PM 11/22/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi, my comments are below inside your message.I have tried to answer all > >your questions as clearly as I can. I hope this helps. > >See below. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jack Daniels" <Labitup at home.com> > >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > >Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 11:30 AM > >Subject: Another newbie > > > > > >> Hi, I am new to Speakup, and I have been following the list for just a > >> short while now. I want to learn whether the following is possible, and > >> how to best accomplish it. > > > >That's great. I'll see what we can do for you. > >> > > > >> First, some info about my Linux box. I have a very small PC installed > >with > >> Redhat 7.1, kernal 2.4.2-12 running on a P133 with no CDROM. > >> A friend set it up for me and I am currently using a serial connection > >from > >> My Win98 PC. > >> > >> What I want to be able to do is to insert a floppy with Speakup and any > >> necessary boot files and have Linux come up talking. Is this possible? > >> If so, what do I need to get/do? > > > >Yes, it is possible, but someone would have to compile you a talking boot > >disk image of Speakup, for your kernel and send it too you. > >Another suggestion is to get Emacspeak rpm, put it on a floppy, and install > >it to your box. At least you would have speech natively on your Linux box > >until you were able to build a Speakup kernel for your machine. > > > >> I want to use a DEC Express on COM2, keeping the serial connection on > >COM1. > >> > > > >This is totally possible. Speakup [probes for your synths ports, and almost > >always finds the synth on ttys0 and ttys1. which are com1 and com2 under > >dos. > > > > > > > >> If this is possible, and I thought it was from reading the list for just a > >> short time, what files do I need? > >> How do I use them? > >> Any info out there detailing this process? > >> > > > >Unfortunately, I don't know of any specific documents that exactly gives you > >a step by step howto on what to do, but most of us are old hands, or at > >least know something about what we are doing. > >Read the kernel howto, and the readme documentation in your kernel source > >directory. > >You basically, will need a clean kernel source tree, and the speakup source. > >Also make sure you have kernel headers installed, compilers installed, and > >are able to build kernels. > > > >> I am sure there is info I have left out, so please ask any questions, and > >I > >> will answer them to the best of my ability. Rememberr, I am new, never > >> built a kernal, the more detailed your response, the better. > > > >Ok, is it possible that you can get a cd rom drive for your computer? Bill > >has Red Hat 7.2 cd's that come with Speakup built in. All you do is install > >the cd's, restart, and wam you have speech. > >I've been where you are now. Looking at a stock distribution, and wondering > >how to get it to talk. Here is how I learned to do it if it is a stock > >distribution and not a Speakup modified distribution. > > > >I downloaded Emacspeak current version, and loaded my Dectalk Express. Then, > >I accessed the shell by doing alt+x, and typed shell. > >Once I had a talking shell, I then installed the Speakup source from floppy, > >and put in the Linux cd, and installed the kernel source. Then, built a > >talking kernel. > >Since you don't have a cd rom drive you may have to substitute by first > >configuring wvdial, and then while in Emacs with Emacspeak do an alt+x and > >type term. > >This puts Emacs in a terminal mode, and you can run wvdial & to get your > >internet connection. > >Then, you can run the Linux ftp program to ftp files from the ftp.kernel.org > >site to your box. > > > >So here is the summary. While it is possible to do what you want it does > >require some compiling, configuring, and large learning curves. However, > >once you do it a couple of times it won't seam so huge. > >However, if you want a quick and simple solution see if you can get Bill's > >modified Red Hat 7.2 disks from the Speakup ftp site, and install that. That > >way you get speech out of the box, and can consentrate on learning the os > >without plunging head-long into advanced compiling, configuring, and all > >that. > > > > > > > >> > >> Thank you in advance for helping another newbie get up and talking with > >> Speakup! > >> > >> Jack > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >