Hi, Kirk: I'm getting the following trying to cvs patch 2.4.5: cvs server: Updating speakup/diff-v25 cvs server: failed to create lock directory for `/usr/src/CVS/speakup/diff-v25' (/usr/src/CVS/speakup/diff-v25/#cvs.lock): Permission denied cvs server: failed to obtain dir lock in repository `/usr/src/CVS/speakup/diff-v25' cvs [server aborted]: read lock failed - giving up [root at TekRD src]# So, is it me or CVS? Seems root shouldn't have a permissions problem locally. -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp