thanks chuck, i saw the page that you were talking about up there. i feel that the best thing that could happen would be for ari_yahoo to have a few more changes made to it, it was very easy to compile and install it, i will see what i can do with imcom, sounds sort of complex to me. thanks for the help, i will agree that we need a better yahoo client that works in linux. also i hope to see our icq access back soon. thanks again. randy On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Charles Hallenbeck wrote: > Hi Randy > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, randy turner wrote: > > > > > > > hi chuck, > > i went to the site but i am not sure what file to download. > > can you give me a step by step because i am new to the program. > > do i need to compile imcom? > > it seems like i might need a library > > for imcom to work, is this assumsion correct? > > thanks for all of the help > > I recommend you go to the guy's development page and get his "latest > nightly" package. Imcom is written in Python and requires an XML parser > library called "expat" which usually does not come with Linux. I had to > get that library from a link on the Imcom page, then get the Python source > archive so that it could be compiled with the expat library. Although the > imcom package is a source package, it does not have to be compiled, > because Python is an interpretor and executes the source code as it is > interpreted. You si;mply run the "make" command with the "install" option > in the imcom directory. > > This whole process is very messy and I am beginning to think it might not > be worth it. Imcom is highly accessible, that is the good news, but it is > very limited in its features, and I am having a tough time getting it to > perform consistently. The author was very helpful for the first 24-48 > hours, and fixed one nasty problem promptly, but problems still remain > which I cannot identify as imcom problems or jabber problems. I guess that > is life on the frontier. > > Text console client programs for jabber are scarce. I only see two on the > website carrying a collection of clients: imcom is one and the other is a > Perl script that _ONLY_ does group chat sessions. What the world needs is > a quality text console client for jabber. All the protocol details are > public domain, all the server documentation is online, the need is clear > and pressing. > > Any programmers out there looking for an interesting and not overly > ambitious project? I am sorely tempted. > > Right now what imcom does reliably is to create an account on a jabber > server of your choosing, and perform roster management and message > exchanges with other jabber users. The ICQ transports that tie jabber to > the ICQ world either do not work or else imcom does not know how to > interface with them. The Yahoo transport works on one jabber server but > not on another, and I have in fact used it successfully to chat with Yahoo > people, but imcom sometimes composes the "to=" field incorrectly producing > error messages instead of conversations. But just sometimes! > > My current assessment is that imcom is currently the best there is for > jabber, but it is not good enough to give us the breakthrough in instant > messaging that it first appeared to provide. > > I hope I have not discouraged you from proceeding. It would be nice to > begin a small set of jabber folks to perhaps push the envelope a little. > > Regards - Chuck > > > > Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh > The Moon is Waxing Crescent (40% of Full) > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >