Well, I wonder if I might be using copies of speakup that do not match the zipslack? I get messages that read that the image file you are trying to run is too old, or something like that. the linux reads on startup 1994, 1996 version 1.6a; if that makes any sense, but that is just part of the startup message, and from what I remember. I seemed to have trouble downloading all current files, as I did not have an exact sight to download from, and I did not know what all the files were that I need. Is there a place or exact ftp link where I can get all the files I need? so far I have speakup.I speakup.s something like speakup.tar.gz which I think is just the zipped speakup.i & .s I cannot really find a setup file. I know that I am still thinking in terms of microsoft, but with some help, I know I can get into the groove with this stuff. Thanks for any help. Sincerely, O. Glenn Ervin-- (Lenny) N0YJV Northeast Nebraska gervin at kdsi.net or My Work e-mail: gervin at ncbvi.state.ne.us