Personally I think folks had just best keep cool heads here. An idea is an idea and it would seem there's little reason to turn this discussion into a flame war. Think before you hit send is all I'll say on the matter. On Thu, 17 May 2001, Shaun Oliver wrote: > Steven. That was uncalled for. > If you have read on, you would see that Kirk has some interesting things > to say. And by the way, I never saw any instances of his shooting ideas > down. just applying a realistic viewpoint to the whole suggestion. This is > the beauty of this list. Everyone posts a suggestion or a question and the > rest if they can, do their level best to either help out or refer you on > to someone or somewhere where there's information relevant to your > situation. > Please let's drop the bitchyness and leave insults out of it? I see enough > of that crap on irc. > > > Shaun.. > "Has anyone ever tasted an "END"? Are they really bitter?" > EMAIL: shauno at goanna.net.au ICQ: 76958435 > YAHOO ID: blindman01_2000 IRC NICK/SERVER: |3|1ndm4n on #aussiefriends on > www.jong.com:6667 > > On Thu, 17 May 2001, Stephen Dawes wrote: > > > There appears to be a problem with my out going mail, and the reply to the > > attached message did not make to the list. So I have chosen to resend this > > message to the list for all to see. > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --+ > > > > Kirk, your arrogance is totally uncalled for. I was just expressing what > > would be nice to have knowing what current limitations are. Perhaps you > > should come down from your lofty perch, and join the rest of us. After all, > > it is nice to have ideas that sometimes make the difference, and it is > > people like yourself who think that there wy85 don't stink, and think they > > know everything that, that make people think twice before sharing them with > > the group. > > > > I suggest to you, that if you are all knowing and such a fantastic > > programmer, that you tackle the problem for all of us, instead of shooting > > our ideas down. > > > > Maybe, just maybe, I have just called your bluff, and you are not that all > > knowing demi-god that you want us all to believe that you are! > > > > So, in the immortal words of Thumper, "If you can't say something nice, then > > don't say anything at all!" > > > > > > > > > > Stephen Dawes B.A. B.Sc. > > Web Business Office, The City of Calgary > > PHONE: (403) 268-5527. FAX: (403) 268-6423 > > E-MAIL ADDRESS: sdawes at gov.calgary.ab.ca > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kirk Wood [mailto:cpt.kirk at 1tree.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:08 PM > > To: Stephen Dawes > > Subject: RE: software speech for speakup > > > > > > On Wed, 16 May 2001, Stephen Dawes wrote: > > > When it happens, I will be right there to test it out. However, I don't > > > want to loose the current level of speech during boot time. I would think > > > that there must be a way to launch the sound as part of the kernel boot > > > process so that a module could be launched to provide soft speech. > > > > Well, I thought we weren't considering speech at start of boot. There is a > > way Stephen. Go learn to program and re-write the entire kernel from > > scratch. That is the only way. If you know much about computers this makes > > sense. The sound card can not possibly be used until such time as a driver > > is loaded. > > > > Now with that limitation in mind, I don't see how you can ask for anything > > more then speech when sound becomes available. This is relatively late in > > the boot process for good reason. The first is that you really should > > initialize the hardware used to get to the card first. Also, keep in mind > > that sound is not considered a critical piece of the equation by the vast > > majority of users. > > > > Soft speech at start of boot will never happen. Even if you got every > > blind person in the world to ask for this feature, it wouldn't create > > enough demand for the project. It is best to not ask for the undoable. > > > > ======= > > Kirk Wood > > Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net > > > > Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >
