Well actually, the double talk right now as shipped takes a total of three chips. One of these chips is for interfacing to either a serial or an ISA slot. One holds the processor and one holds the data. All other devices on the board are support for them. All of this could easily fit in one of today's chips leaving room for additional code and leaving more clock cycles then the processor a double talk uses (8086). Now of course code would have to be developed. But I would expect that a single chip solution could give double talk or better and recieve flash upgrades. The chips are already on the market. You can buy a 50 mips chip with on board flash rom for less then $20. The code for direct connection to USB is given. It really isn't like it would be a huge hardware project. It would mostly be a software (firmware) project. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.