Shaun, are you using the windows or the linux version of speak freely. We saw your chat messages no problem. I suspect if you are using a firewall you haven't forwarded those ports. You need to forward 2074-76 and 4074-76. good luck. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061