This is disturbingly close to April 1, but the new issue of Linux Gazette points a project called "charva" which is an attempt to make Java environments available to ASCII terminals. I wonder if there is some potential for access here? The URL is: http://www.pitman.co.za/projects/charva/index.html Chuck My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh The Moon is Waxing Crescent (44% of Full)