Yahoo!!! I solved it! God Damn! (excuse me) There is a pine configuration variable called "smtp-server" which I had set to point to my ISP's mail server. Leaving that variable null defaults to "sendmail" and that makes it possible for Pine to send to "user at localhost" without going out to the ISP first. Thanks to all for their suggestions. Chuck My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (68% of Full)