ah, but if the cdr is built in??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@xxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:54 AM Subject: Re: New Braille Notetaker From Papenmeier You miss the point, I think. DTBs will be distributed in many ways--even over the net, eventually. But, even if one gets a CDR based book, one would still prefer to copy it to one's hd before heading off to the library, the schoolroom, the conference room, the airport, etc., etc. It's the same old argument I've made here before--having stuff hanging off your portable unit is less than optimal. The more you need to connect something else using a cable, the less inclined you are to do so in many portable situations--like on the school bus, for example. On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Saqib Shaikh wrote: > surely digital talking books will be distributed on cdrom, and not on hard > disk, so all they need is to support a usb/pcmcia/parallel cdrom drive. > saqib > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:09 PM > Subject: Re: New Braille Notetaker From Papenmeier > > > > Actually, this memory storage defect is rather serious. Digital Talking > > Books are really here if you're a K-12 student in a blind school in the > > U.S. They're also already a reality in Japan and Sweden. They're coming > > next spring in Canada and Great Britain. They needs hundreds of Mb per > > book on average, so will not be well supported in this device at all, > > unless Papenmeier get a real hd inside but soon. > > On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Rich > > Caloggero wrote: > > > > > Now, can you get a hard drive in a PCCard (pcmcia) form? This might make > it > > > truly usable. Well, actually, for a straight portable computer for > personal > > > organizing and business applications, it looks great. However, 16 > megabyts > > > isn't even 4 moderately long mp3s. > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <romualt at megsinet.net> > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: 26 June, 2001 5:33 PM > > > Subject: Re: New Braille Notetaker From Papenmeier > > > > > > > > > Enough to keep me personally entertained. > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 03:16:00PM -0400, Mike Calvo wrote: > > > > How many of your best mp3 files would fit in 16mb I wonder. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <romualt at megsinet.net> > > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:49 PM > > > > Subject: Re: New Braille Notetaker From Papenmeier > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like Freedom Scientific and > > > > > Paulse Data just got some formidable compatition. > > > > > Any word on the price of this thing? > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 05:38:02PM +0100, Saqib Shaikh wrote: > > > > > > Thought this may be of interest to people: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The new notetaker that works! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Papenmeier will be demonstrating their new ELBA braille > notetaker, > > > at > > > > > > sight Village on the 16th to the 18th July. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ELBA Papenmeiers New Braille Assistant, combines all of your > > > > computer > > > > > > and Braille requirements into one compact and easy to use device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the ELBA, you can surf the web, send and receive e-mails, > > > listen > > > > to > > > > > > your favourite MP3 files, and write a letter to your Boss all at > the > > > > same > > > > > > time! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Braille Assistant comes with a complete suite of programs, > all > > > > menu > > > > > > driven, for easy use, with the added functionality of quick keys > for > > > > power > > > > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It includes a modem, network card, serial and parallel interface > , > > > USB > > > > > > port and PCMCIA slot, all as standard! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ELBA offers its users the choice of querty or Braille imput, > and > > > > > > provides output and feedback with excellent speech with a choice > of > > > > > > languages, and 18 or 32 cell refreshable Braille display. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With its multi-tasking abilities, large storage facilities for > > > storing > > > > > > your documents and MP3 files, combined with Papenmeiers > world-renowned > > > > build > > > > > > quality, the speed and stability of the Linux operating system, > the > > > ELba > > > > is > > > > > > the Braille Notetaker that takes note of your requirements, and > works > > > > for > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The full specifications are as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Program Suite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Word processor, File Manager, File transfer to and from PC, File > > > > converter > > > > > > (read and write WinWord compatible format), Braille translator, > > > E-mail, > > > > > > Internet browser, Scientific Calculator, MP3 Player, Voicenote, > > > > Spreadsheet, > > > > > > Scheduler / Planner, Address book, Data base, Cellular phone > > > management, > > > > > > Root shell (bash) for power users allowing direct access to the > Linux > > > > > > system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ELba comes with the following ports: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Serial (RS232) with standard 9-pin connector, Parallel with > standard > > > > > > 25-pin connector > > > > > > > USB Client, PS/2 keyboard, Standard Type II PCMCIA / Cardbus > slot > > > > Ethernet > > > > > > (RJ45) > > > > > > > Internal 56k modem, or optionally, internal ISDN card instead of > > > modem > > > > > > (RJ45) > > > > > > > Speaker Output, Microphone Input > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remote Braille Display capabilities > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Braille Terminal to allow Braillex Elba to act as a Braille > display > > > > and > > > > > > Braille keyboard for other computers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visual Display Support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connection via the serial port to an (optional) external LCD > display > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Technical Specifications > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 32-bit Digital StrongARM RISC processor > > > > > > > Linux operating system > > > > > > > DRAM 32 Mbytes > > > > > > > Flash Memory 16 Mbytes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Physical Characteristics > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dimensions: 300 x 215 x 50 mm (11.8" x 8.5" x 2") > > > > > > > ca. 2 Kg (4.5 lb) for 32-cell version > > > > > > > Aluminium-magnesium case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carry Case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soft carrying case with shoulder strap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Papenmeier UK > > > > > > > Telephone Number 0870 6061506 Fax 01245 231157 > > > > > > > E-mail Braillex at globalnet.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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> Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.html > > > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > Learn how to make accessible software at > http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.html Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup