I think it was this list that wanted micq: Sorry Ann, but the page you found on google doesn't seem to exist anymore. (It happens to the best of them...) That's the one downside to Google--there is link rot a-plenty. However, down a bit further on the google search results, you will find http://micq.ukeer.de/ This one definitely works, and it looks like micq-0.4.7 is out. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV | History is made by stupid people. Email: davros at ycardz.com | Clever people wouldn't even try. Phone: (972) 276-6360 | If you want a place in the history books ICQ: 36621210 | Then do something dumb before you die.