Hi Anne. I'm a newby on this list, and I still use emacspeak, mostly because I didn't have a decent external speech synthe for several onths since it broke and I couldnd't afford to replace it. As soon as I've got some spare time, now that I've got the blasted thing back, I probably will give speakup a shot. The thing I wanted to say was that with telnet or ssh you don't *need* to use eterm. Shell mode is more than adequate unless you're trying to use a full screen application. If you're merely trying to log on to a shell account on another machine, just run telnet or ssh in shell mode. Or better still, get a copy of ftelnet.el and/or ssh.el, which are standalone clients based on comint mode and speak perfectly well. Sorry for the off-topic post, all.