Hi again Chuck: well, I can't tell whether X is necessary or not from that url. It is an .smi file using the rtsp protocol. When I ran it with trplayer it just told me some components necessary are not available on my computer. My guess would be that it's the .smi which maybe the problem rather than X itself. Just guessing though! Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061