Hi Thomas: How did you create the floppy disk? If you use rawrite.exe you can get problems with the image not being copied correctly if you leave speech running from jfw or windoweyes or asap. The other question is when you don't hear any speech, does it sound like the kernel is actually loading or not? Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061