I would start with a hub. If you have three machines you really should be using a hub. (Actually with two you should be using one.) Then start with verifying that all machines have the expected IP address, and said address actually falls into the same subnet on all machines. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open. If your too open minded, your brains will fall out.