Hi Darn! I've got devfs configured in. I really wanted to use it! I'll try it without it. Any fixes to this? On 6 Jan 2001, Kirk Reiser wrote: > Hi Jacob: You might want to check to see if you have devfs configured > in. John Covici just told me speakup hangs if that's configured in. > The current cvs code supports 2.4.0 just fine. There is a new tarball > speakup-0.10a.tar.gz which I released a day or two ago to deal with > the 2.4.0 release. > > You are right about releasing to early but how do you know when other > folks are going to release their new stuff? I will attach my .config > below which is an AMD k6-200 with the DoubleTalk PC and currently > running 2.4.0ac2. Speakup won't patch with that release cleanly so > don't bother with it yet. > > Kirk > > # > # Automatically generated make config: don't edit > # > CONFIG_X86=y > CONFIG_ISA=y > # CONFIG_SBUS is not set > CONFIG_UID16=y > > # > # Code maturity level options > # > # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is not set > > # > # Loadable module support > # > CONFIG_MODULES=y > # CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set > CONFIG_KMOD=y > > # > # Processor type and features > # > # CONFIG_M386 is not set > # CONFIG_M486 is not set > # CONFIG_M586 is not set > # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set > # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set > # CONFIG_M686 is not set > # CONFIG_M686FXSR is not set > # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set > CONFIG_MK6=y > # CONFIG_MK7 is not set > # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set > # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set > # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set > # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set > CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y > CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y > CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y > CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y > CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y > CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5 > CONFIG_X86_ALIGNMENT_16=y > CONFIG_X86_TSC=y > CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y > # CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set > # CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set > # CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set > # CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set > CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y > # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set > # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set > # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set > CONFIG_MTRR=y > # CONFIG_SMP is not set > # CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC is not set > > # > # General setup > # > CONFIG_NET=y > # CONFIG_VISWS is not set > CONFIG_PCI=y > # CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set > # CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set > CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y > CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y > CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y > CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y > # CONFIG_EISA is not set > # CONFIG_MCA is not set > # CONFIG_HOTPLUG is not set > # CONFIG_PCMCIA is not set > CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y > # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set > CONFIG_SYSCTL=y > CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y > # CONFIG_KCORE_AOUT is not set > CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y > CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y > CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y > # CONFIG_PM is not set > # CONFIG_APM is not set > > # > # Memory Technology Devices (MTD) > # > # CONFIG_MTD is not set > > # > # Parallel port support > # > # CONFIG_PARPORT is not set > > # > # Plug and Play configuration > # > CONFIG_PNP=y > # CONFIG_ISAPNP is not set > > # > # Block devices > # > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set > # CONFIG_PARIDE is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD is not set > > # > # Multi-device support (RAID and LVM) > # > # CONFIG_MD is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set > # CONFIG_MD_LINEAR is not set > # CONFIG_MD_RAID0 is not set > # CONFIG_MD_RAID1 is not set > # CONFIG_MD_RAID5 is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LVM is not set > # CONFIG_LVM_PROC_FS is not set > > # > # Networking options > # > CONFIG_PACKET=y > # CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP is not set > # CONFIG_NETLINK is not set > # CONFIG_NETFILTER is not set > # CONFIG_FILTER is not set > CONFIG_UNIX=y > CONFIG_INET=y > # CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set > # CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set > # CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set > CONFIG_NET_IPIP=m > CONFIG_NET_IPGRE=m > # CONFIG_INET_ECN is not set > CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y > > # > # > # > # CONFIG_IPX is not set > # CONFIG_ATALK is not set > # CONFIG_DECNET is not set > # CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set > > # > # Telephony Support > # > # CONFIG_PHONE is not set > # CONFIG_PHONE_IXJ is not set > > # > # ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support > # > CONFIG_IDE=y > > # > # IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices > # > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y > > # > # Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives > # > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y > # CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK_VENDOR is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK_FUJITSU is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK_IBM is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK_MAXTOR is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK_QUANTUM is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK_SEAGATE is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK_WD is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_COMMERIAL is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TIVO is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECS is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI=y > > # > # IDE chipset support/bugfixes > # > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640=y > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640_ENHANCED is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ISAPNP is not set > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000=y > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y > # CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ is not set > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD is not set > CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y > # CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_WIP is not set > # CONFIG_IDEDMA_NEW_DRIVE_LISTINGS is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AEC62XX is not set > # CONFIG_AEC62XX_TUNING is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ALI15X3 is not set > # CONFIG_WDC_ALI15X3 is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD7409 is not set > # CONFIG_AMD7409_OVERRIDE is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD64X is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CY82C693 is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CS5530 is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT34X is not set > # CONFIG_HPT34X_AUTODMA is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT366 is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX is not set > # CONFIG_PIIX_TUNING is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NS87415 is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OPTI621 is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX is not set > # CONFIG_PDC202XX_BURST is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OSB4 is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513 is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SLC90E66 is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRM290 is not set > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX is not set > # CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS is not set > CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y > # CONFIG_IDEDMA_IVB is not set > # CONFIG_DMA_NONPCI is not set > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_MODES=y > > # > # SCSI support > # > CONFIG_SCSI=y > > # > # SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM) > # > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD is not set > # CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST is not set > # CONFIG_CHR_DEV_OSST is not set > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=y > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR is not set > CONFIG_SR_EXTRA_DEVS=2 > CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=y > > # > # Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs > # > # CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG_QUEUES is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING is not set > > # > # SCSI low-level drivers > # > # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_3W_XXXX_RAID is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_7000FASST is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_ACARD is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_AHA152X is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1740 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_ADVANSYS is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_IN2000 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_AM53C974 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_MEGARAID is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_CPQFCTS is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_DMX3191D is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_DTC3280 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_DMA is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_GENERIC_NCR5380 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_IPS is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_INITIO is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_INIA100 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C406A is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_PAS16 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2000 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2220I is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_PSI240I is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FAS is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FC is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_1280 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_SEAGATE is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_SIM710 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C416 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_DC390T is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_T128 is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_U14_34F is not set > # CONFIG_SCSI_ULTRASTOR is not set > > # > # I2O device support > # > # CONFIG_I2O is not set > # CONFIG_I2O_PCI is not set > # CONFIG_I2O_BLOCK is not set > # CONFIG_I2O_LAN is not set > # CONFIG_I2O_SCSI is not set > # CONFIG_I2O_PROC is not set > > # > # Network device support > # > CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y > > # > # ARCnet devices > # > # CONFIG_ARCNET is not set > CONFIG_DUMMY=m > # CONFIG_BONDING is not set > # CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set > # CONFIG_TUN is not set > # CONFIG_NET_SB1000 is not set > > # > # Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) > # > CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y > # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set > # CONFIG_LANCE is not set > CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_SMC=y > CONFIG_WD80x3=m > CONFIG_ULTRA=m > # CONFIG_ULTRA32 is not set > CONFIG_SMC9194=m > # CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_RACAL is not set > # CONFIG_DEPCA is not set > # CONFIG_HP100 is not set > # CONFIG_NET_ISA is not set > # CONFIG_NET_PCI is not set > # CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set > > # > # Ethernet (1000 Mbit) > # > # CONFIG_ACENIC is not set > # CONFIG_HAMACHI is not set > # CONFIG_SK98LIN is not set > # CONFIG_FDDI is not set > CONFIG_PPP=y > # CONFIG_PPP_MULTILINK is not set > CONFIG_PPP_ASYNC=y > CONFIG_PPP_SYNC_TTY=y > CONFIG_PPP_DEFLATE=y > CONFIG_PPP_BSDCOMP=y > CONFIG_SLIP=m > CONFIG_SLIP_COMPRESSED=y > CONFIG_SLIP_SMART=y > CONFIG_SLIP_MODE_SLIP6=y > > # > # Wireless LAN (non-hamradio) > # > # CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set > > # > # Token Ring devices > # > # CONFIG_TR is not set > # CONFIG_NET_FC is not set > > # > # Wan interfaces > # > # CONFIG_WAN is not set > > # > # Amateur Radio support > # > # CONFIG_HAMRADIO is not set > > # > # IrDA (infrared) support > # > # CONFIG_IRDA is not set > > # > # ISDN subsystem > # > # CONFIG_ISDN is not set > > # > # Old CD-ROM drivers (not SCSI, not IDE) > # > # CONFIG_CD_NO_IDESCSI is not set > > # > # Input core support > # > # CONFIG_INPUT is not set > > # > # Character devices > # > CONFIG_VT=y > CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y > CONFIG_SERIAL=y > # CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE is not set > # CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set > # CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set > CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y > CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256 > > # > # I2C support > # > # CONFIG_I2C is not set > > # > # Mice > # > # CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set > # CONFIG_MOUSE is not set > > # > # Joysticks > # > # CONFIG_JOYSTICK is not set > > # > # Input core support is needed for joysticks > # > # CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set > > # > # Watchdog Cards > # > # CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set > # CONFIG_INTEL_RNG is not set > CONFIG_NVRAM=m > CONFIG_RTC=y > # CONFIG_DTLK is not set > # CONFIG_R3964 is not set > # CONFIG_APPLICOM is not set > > # > # Ftape, the floppy tape device driver > # > # CONFIG_FTAPE is not set > # CONFIG_AGP is not set > # CONFIG_DRM is not set > > # > # Multimedia devices > # > # CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set > > # > # File systems > # > # CONFIG_QUOTA is not set > CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS=y > # CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS is not set > # CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set > # CONFIG_ADFS_FS_RW is not set > # CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set > # CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set > # CONFIG_BFS_FS is not set > CONFIG_FAT_FS=m > CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=m > # CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set > CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m > # CONFIG_EFS_FS is not set > # CONFIG_JFFS_FS is not set > # CONFIG_CRAMFS is not set > # CONFIG_RAMFS is not set > CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=m > # CONFIG_JOLIET is not set > CONFIG_MINIX_FS=m > # CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set > # CONFIG_NTFS_RW is not set > # CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set > CONFIG_PROC_FS=y > # CONFIG_DEVFS_FS is not set > # CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT is not set > # CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set > CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y > # CONFIG_QNX4FS_FS is not set > # CONFIG_QNX4FS_RW is not set > # CONFIG_ROMFS_FS is not set > CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y > # CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set > # CONFIG_SYSV_FS_WRITE is not set > # CONFIG_UDF_FS is not set > # CONFIG_UDF_RW is not set > # CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set > # CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE is not set > > # > # Network File Systems > # > # CONFIG_CODA_FS is not set > CONFIG_NFS_FS=m > # CONFIG_NFS_V3 is not set > # CONFIG_ROOT_NFS is not set > CONFIG_NFSD=m > # CONFIG_NFSD_V3 is not set > CONFIG_SUNRPC=m > CONFIG_LOCKD=m > # CONFIG_SMB_FS is not set > # CONFIG_NCP_FS is not set > # CONFIG_NCPFS_PACKET_SIGNING is not set > # CONFIG_NCPFS_IOCTL_LOCKING is not set > # CONFIG_NCPFS_STRONG is not set > # CONFIG_NCPFS_NFS_NS is not set > # CONFIG_NCPFS_OS2_NS is not set > # CONFIG_NCPFS_SMALLDOS is not set > # CONFIG_NCPFS_NLS is not set > # CONFIG_NCPFS_EXTRAS is not set > > # > # Partition Types > # > # CONFIG_PARTITION_ADVANCED is not set > CONFIG_MSDOS_PARTITION=y > # CONFIG_SMB_NLS is not set > CONFIG_NLS=y > > # > # Native Language Support > # > CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT="cp437" > CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=m > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_737 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_775 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_850 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_852 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_855 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_857 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_860 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_861 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_862 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_863 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_864 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_865 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_866 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_869 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_874 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_932 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_936 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_949 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_950 is not set > CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=m > # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_2 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_3 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_4 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_5 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_6 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_7 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_8 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_9 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_14 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_15 is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_KOI8_R is not set > # CONFIG_NLS_UTF8 is not set > > # > # Console drivers > # > CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y > # CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT is not set > CONFIG_SPEAKUP=y > CONFIG_SPEAKUP_DTLK=y > # CONFIG_SPEAKUP_LTLK is not set > # CONFIG_SPEAKUP_ACNTPC is not set > # CONFIG_SPEAKUP_ACNTSA is not set > # CONFIG_SPEAKUP_TXPRT is not set > # CONFIG_SPEAKUP_BNS is not set > # CONFIG_SPEAKUP_AUDPTR is not set > # CONFIG_SPEAKUP_APOLO is not set > # CONFIG_SPEAKUP_DECTLK is not set > # CONFIG_SPEAKUP_DECEXT is not set > # CONFIG_SPEAKUP_SPKOUT is not set > > # > # end of Speakup configuration. > # > > # > # Sound > # > CONFIG_SOUND=y > # CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_FUSION is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_CS4281 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_ESSSOLO1 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_SONICVIBES is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_TRIDENT is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_VIA82CXXX is not set > CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=m > # CONFIG_SOUND_TRACEINIT is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_DMAP is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_SGALAXY is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_ADLIB is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_ACI_MIXER is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_CS4232 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_SSCAPE is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_GUS is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_ICH is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_VMIDI is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_TRIX is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_MSS is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_MPU401 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_NM256 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_MAD16 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_PAS is not set > # CONFIG_PAS_JOYSTICK is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_PSS is not set > CONFIG_SOUND_SB=m > # CONFIG_SOUND_AWE32_SYNTH is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_WAVEFRONT is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_MAUI is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_YM3812 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_OPL3SA1 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_OPL3SA2 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_YMPCI is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_YMFPCI is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_UART6850 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_AEDSP16 is not set > # CONFIG_SOUND_TVMIXER is not set > > # > # USB support > # > # CONFIG_USB is not set > > # > # Kernel hacking > # > # CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ is not set > > -- > > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility > e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario > phone: (519) 661-3061 > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >