Yes, yes! This does the trick. I don't suppose there's anything so neat and simple for "delete and expunge messages with the same subject"? Guess that one I will have to roll? Thanks for solving this one, though. You've just sped up my mail reading big time! Much obliged. On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Chris Nestrud wrote: > Change the index-format variable to 'msgno subject fromorto'. This should > change all message indexes to be as you've described. > > Chris > > On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > The Pine setup configurations let you choose how the index is listed > > out--as recieved, or the reverse of how messages are recieved, or by > > thread, or by sender, or by a host of features or their reverse. It does > > not let one tweak what summary is presented for each message. > > > > To put it differently, it lets you tweak the vertical order. But, I want > > to tweak the horizontal order. I want a number to the far left followed by > > the subject and then the sender. There's nothing like this in the Pine > > setup. > > On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Jason Fayre wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > The index format in Pine can be tweaked in the pine setup screen. I don't > > > remember exactly what the parameter is called, but it is there. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > > > Hello All -- and Happy New Year to all: > > > > > > > > Like many of you, I've become comfortable with compiling applications and > > > > rolling out linux kernels with Speakup compiled in. Well, OK, I've become > > > > somewhat comfortable with the basics. In other words, I'm ready to take > > > > the next tentative step. For me, this means tweaking some of my pet peaves > > > > with my computer into behaving like I want them to behave, rather than > > > > living with the defaults. > > > > > > > > I have two tweaks that I want to put into effect: > > > > > > > > 1.) The system bell stinks, imho. I hate that 1 kHz (or whatever) tone > > > > that one gets with Ctrl-G, ASCII char 7, or %BELL, or whatever the heck > > > > it's called in one programming environment or other. I want something > > > > else. The something else I want I can already effect in a simple shell > > > > script. Where and how do I make this the default? I presume this is > > > > somewhere in the kernel code as a call of some sort that I would > > > > substitute my own call with. Gak, what terrible grammar, but I suspect > > > > you'll get the idea; > > > > > > > > 2.) I intend to keep using Pine. Because I have Caldera on my portable > > > > system, I have to compile from sources if I want to upgrade to the latest > > > > and greatest. This gives me the opportunity to tweak, hopefully, how the > > > > Pine index is displayed. In other words, I want to change the order of > > > > summary info Pine will display when a folder's index is on screen; > > > > > > > > Any advice on the above would be greatly appreciated. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > > Technology Research and Development > > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > > > janina at afb.net > > > > (202) 408-8175 > > > > http://www.afb.org/gov.html > > > > > > > > > > > > The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning > > > > achievement of the past millennium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon > > > > eclipse it. Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at: > > > > > > > > http://www.afb.org/ebook.html > > > > > > > > Are you developing software? Make it accessible to blind computer users. > > > > Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > janina at afb.net > > (202) 408-8175 > > http://www.afb.org/gov.html > > > > > > The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning > > achievement of the past millennium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon > > eclipse it. Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at: > > > > http://www.afb.org/ebook.html > > > > Are you developing software? Make it accessible to blind computer users. > > Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) janina at afb.net (202) 408-8175 http://www.afb.org/gov.html The invention of the printing press has been named the crowning achievement of the past millennium. Yet, electronic publishing will soon eclipse it. Read our White Paper: "Surpassing Gutenberg" available at: http://www.afb.org/ebook.html Are you developing software? Make it accessible to blind computer users. Read http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html to learn how.