It is the price of progress. Here are some stats to consider. Serial Port: Uses 1 IRQ that can't be shared Supports 1 device with very limited speed USB Port: Uses 1 IRQ for 2 busses and shares well Supports 128 devices with a buad rate more then double the venerable serial port. So it is clear that the USB port is a much more efficient solution for many problems. Perhaps the solution is to trick the system and use the mouse and/or keyboard support built into the bios to talk over the USB until further into the boot cycle. Keep in mind that full implimentation allows for the keyboard and mouse to be available before system boot. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.