No problem. It was just sitting here on my hd in an ACB directory. On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote: > Thanks for resending that report, I will save it for future reference. > Greg > > > On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 12:53:36PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Hi, Gregory: > > > > Yes, I did find some clients that will work under DOS, as well as some > > Windows clients. My report for ACB on this issue is attached for your > > convenience. > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I know there was some discussion on this way back, and that Janina posted some stuff about it, but ... Where can I find accessible ssh clients for windblows? I like the one that comes with cygwin, but I'd prefer something that's stand-alone and that could be run from a floppy. If it works from a DOS box, even better. > > > Thanks for any help in advance. > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > Learn how to make accessible software at > > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > From janina at afb.net Wed Oct 31 10:09:40 2001 > > From: Janina Sajka <janina at afb.net> > > > > Dear Colleagues: > > > > This report summarizes my explorations of functionality and accessibility > > in current SSH clients for Windows. As you will recall, I (and others) > > have strongly advised against using telnet and ftp for administration of > > ACB's remote web server simply because these applications are insecure. > > Rather, SSH is recommended because it provides the same functionality but > > in a manner where all of the information transmitted across the public > > Internet has been secured with strong data encryption. This is > > particularly important for usernames and passwords which allow access to > > system level functions on this remote server. And, such security > > precautions have only become more important since the events of September > > 11 last. > > > > Fortunately, the news for ACB is very good. I will point you to a fully > > accessible and fully featured ftp client with full support for ssh2--the > > current standard. This should take care of the need to move files back and > > forth very nicely. The news for command line access isn't quite as good, > > though it is still not bad. Herewith the details: > > > > 1.) File Transfer Agents > > > > There is really only one choice here. CuteFTP Pro 1.0 has absolutely everything ACB needs to manage files on its remote > > server securely. CuteFTP Pro stands head and shoulders above the competition both on accessibility and on ftp features. > > It is, unfortunately, not a free software program, but it is very excellent all the way around. Be sure you get CuteFTP > > Pro 1.0, and not the older CuteFtp 3.5 or 4.0 clients which do NOT support ssh. A free 30 day trial copy can be > > downloaded from GlobalScape, the manufacturer of CuteFTP Pro at: > > > > http://www.globalscape.com/download/index.shtml > > > > My second, and very viable, choice for managing these files remotely is the DOS command line utilities that are > > available in the SSH for Windows 32-bit operating environments client available free of charge to nonprofits at > > > > http://www.ssh.com > > > > Regretably, the Windows utilities in this package are only partially accessible. But, they are also only partly as > > capable as Cute FTP -- lacking such important features as "resume upload." Still, the DOS ports of the unix commands scp > > and sftp will work very well for anyone who still has good speech access to DOS; > > > > 2.) Terminal Access > > > > The options for a good command line on the web server are not as clear as for file management. Fortunately, though, > > there are very good secure substitutes for telnet, and their accessibility is probably no less than the accessibility > > for the various telnet clients. Let me explain: > > > > Not unlike the circumstances in available telnet clients, available ssh clients range from fully accessible clients to > > not so accessible ones. And, the reasons for this are substantially the same because, after the connection is made, what > > telnet presents onscreen is no different than what ssh presents onscreen. > > > > So, if you think that telnet is accessible on Windows, you will likely get the same level of accessibility from the > > SSH Client for Windows available from: > > > > http://www.ssh.com > > > > In order to get the same functionality, however, you will likely need to apply whatever set files are associated with > > your Windows telnet client to this SSH application. > > > > If, on the other hand, you are able to run in DOS, you will find the command line version which comes with this > > application vastly superior. This DOS client simply works with asap or vocal-eyes. > > > > CONCLUSIONS > > > > The Windows CuteFTP Pro 1.0 client should be used for secure remote file management; > > > > The DOS SSH2.EXE client from ssh.com should be used for secure remote terminal access; > > > > The telnet server should be removed from the web server; > > > > FTP access should be limited to anonymous access only; > > > > ADDITIONAL NOTES > > > > There is yet another SSH application available on Windows called PuTTY. While it is not as accessible, in my view, as > > the applications named above, it could be as accessible if a competent programmer were to fix the interface. This is > > possible because PuTTY is an open source application. The source code, documentation, and current executables for PuTTY > > can be found at: > > > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ > > > > Respectfully Submitted, > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > Learn how to make accessible software at > > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp
