Okay, I did try the older dsound.dll files but noticed there's a .vxd file so I copied the newer versions along with the dsound.dll into the speakfre directory and it works now but the menus aren't spoken but can get those from the pulldown okay. I used the 'n' option for new connection and entered the url for speakup but don't hear anything. I've got a firewall here so may have to see about unblocking the ports as this is a problem mentioned in the information on the site. Guess I'll try this later. Need to get some sleep here or may be talking in stream of unconsciousness hahah! Thanks all and to the others for the mass of chatter I generated on here. Amanda
