I still like the /bin/false idea better. Another thing I've seen is making the shell /usr/bin/passwd so if they log in all they get to do is change their password. -- I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol that some thinkle peep I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. -- Raul A. Gallegos mailto:raul at asmodean.net - http://www.asmodean.net