Hi: I assume you mean outgoing FTP and telnet. These are just executable programs, with permissions that can be set like any other. for example, I have a telnet that is owned by root with group root and it has the permissions rwxr-xr-x. Now, I could change the group to telnet and make it rwxr-x---. Then only the users I put in the telnet group would be able to access it. there are options to the adduser command to fascilitate putting people in existing groups, or moving people accross to existing groups. Alternatively, you can add them by hand to the appropriate group in the /etc/group file. Geoff.