Hi Pete: Yeah, redhat places another kernel on the hard drive other than the one it uses for installation. Bill Acker has made up some speakup rpm's to install a speakup kernel for you. I am sure he will respond to this message but if you're in a hurry you can write to him directly at wacker.octothorp.org. Good luck. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061