Hi Brent: There can only be one root user. Having said that, you can either use sudo or su to gain access as root. If I were a sysadmin, I'd probably implement sudo rather than allow access to su. Why? Because su is used for people to become root. It's just the same as logging in as root except it gets around the /etc/securetty permissions. In other words, anyone from any location can become super user using su if they first login as their user account. Su expects root's password in order to become super user, which means that a sysadmin has to give out root's password to anyone they want to use su. Sudo however authenticates with the user's password, and the sysadmin controls who has access to it. If someone is abusing it, they can take away their access and there's nothing the user can do about it. In my opinion, this is much safer. Which means I really should go learn how to administer it. <grin> Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <gshang10 at scu.edu.au> ICQ number 43634701