Also remember you can get a $0.99 (or maybe it's back to $1.89, I haven't checked) CD of any distribution at www.linuxmall.com It might be more if you get a multi-disk distro. Like maybe $2 or $3 or something. And Linuxmall has actually done some good by making their site easier to use if you're blind. At least, last time I was there it was. Bear in mind though that if you go the CD route, you'll still need to get the boot and root disks and the base.tgz file from the Speakup FTP site for Debian. I think I might play with making a Debian CD with the modified base2-2.tgz file myself. Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV Voice mail: 877-791-5298 Email: davros at ycardz.com