I found mandrake 7.1 for $20.00 at Best Buy on Saturday. I found that what it has sounds so cool, of course x-win is unusable with speech at the time. The box said it's redhat compatible, would that mean I could get it installed with the redhat boot disk? I also found redhat professional server, not sure which version, for $170 which I'm almost sure probably will install with speakup. I'm thinking about switching, as I can't compile much of anything with debian without it failing about functions or files it can't find. I just downloaded zipspeak again, if I copy that in to the linux partition with debian, I'd have a sort of zipslackdeb system, but it probably won't work either.