Hi Jack: Can you give me some kind of idea which is the last version you've successfully run with and without speakup? Also, which synth are you using again? I knows it may sound stupid but I can barely remember what synth I have. Any other relevant info would also be good. Bill says his version works my LiteTalk works, although I haven't tried any other synths myself yet. I'm hoping your synth wasn't a LiteTalk or an Audaptor. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061