Hi Chuck: Both PNM and RTSP are streaming protocols, designed for a program like realplayer to use to connect to a server. Since lynx does not how to talk in these protocols, nor does any other retrieval program that I know of, my thought would be that you're out of luck here. These are files that re meant to be streamed to you in realtime from the particular site, and not intended by the webmaster to be downloaded. Apart from using something like vsound, I can't think of how you'd manage this. Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <gshang10 at scu.edu.au> ICQ number 43634701