hi Kirk and all, A while back Kirk gave me a copy of the new dec express driver, and someone else, I forget who, also gave me a copy of the old sluggish one. I am sad to say I have had no luck after much trying to get either of them to work. my dectalk isn't found, no matter which machine or driver i try it on. The dectalk, works perfectly however with emacspeak. has anyone else had this problem? any suggestions apreciated! i'm using dectalk firmware 4 2 cd nov 8 96. thanks in advance. Bart