Well here's the deal. Seems the modules are not getting loaded as I had thought, but then thanks to modprobe I loaded them and forgot<G>. In any case here's the stuff from my modules.conf which should be loading them. #modified 5/6/2000 alias net-pf-4 off alias net-pf-5 off # ok, my attempt at ALSA config stuff (kirk) alias char-major-116 snd options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 alias snd-card-0 snd-card-emu10k1 options snd-card-emu10k1 snd_index=0 snd_id="SBLIVE" \ # OSS/Free setup alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss I am using the same asound.conf file from the previous installation. Kernel 2.2.14 alsa drivers 5.7. Any help would be appreciated. I'm nearly back on the air. Yeah, manage to royally trash the box.<G> Well learning comes at a high price.hahah