A recent reference to the Apple got me to thinking of parallels. When the Apple was popular among blind users, it was famous for making "talking applicati8ons" relatively easy. The PC with speech access, on the other hand, made the OS talk, and thus automatically made a whole bunch of applications accessible in one stroke. On Linux today we have two major movements - emacspeak, which is a "talking applicati8on" (though a very powerful one) following the Apple traditi8on, and we have Speakup, which makes the OS talk and thus opens up the entire Linux world (minus X) for blind users. What an incredibly distorted view this slashdot comment offers. Almost leaves one - pardon the pun - speechless! Chuck. My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh (I C Q = 67363342) "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759.